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Marcus Zervos talk about I’m the reason they force vaccinate every single employee at Henry Ford Health. So they had a bias going into the study. And yet the study is one of the most damning of all times. But what if you went in with an unbiased perspective and just said, what does the data show?

Well, that’s exactly what epidemiologist Nick Holscher has done, and he joins me right now. Nick. First of all, you’re like this rising superstar overnight. I see you everywhere. I have no idea where you came from and how you’ve sort of jumped into the space. So where do you come from? What is your educational background?

How did you get into this?

Well, listen, I come from Michigan. I graduated from the University of Michigan School of Public Health. Got my training in epidemiology. I actually graduated two years ago.

and i was what a weird time to be in med school epidemiology during one of the biggest epidemiologic crisis of all times well listen as one of the reasons i went

into epidemiology was because i saw the lockdowns i saw the mrna injections i saw it all and i wanted to make a difference so i went into public health school i got into contact with dr peter mccullough i asked every one of my professors for an internship Only one said yes. I emailed all of them.

And so I’m so thankful for that or else I would have never met Dr. McCullough. And since then, we’ve published now over 20 peer-reviewed papers looking at the harms of vaccines.

It’s really phenomenal. We’re going to get into some of that, but let’s start out with this study at the center of our film, an inconvenient study, the Henry Ford Health Study. You did a reanalysis. In that analysis, describe for me the difference between how Dr. Marcus Zervos analyzed the data and what you did.

All 12 Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Studies Found the Same Thing: Unvaccinated Children Are Far Healthier

Epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher on The HighWire

Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

Dec 19, 2025

by Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

I joined Del Bigtree in studio on The HighWire to discuss what the data now make unavoidable: the CDC’s 81-dose hyper-vaccination schedule is driving the modern epidemics of chronic disease and autism.

This was not a philosophical debate or a clash of opinions. We walked through irrefutable, peer-reviewed evidence showing that whenever vaccinated and unvaccinated children are compared directly, the unvaccinated group is far healthier—every single time.


Reanalyzing the Largest Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Birth-Cohort Study Ever Conducted

At the center of our discussion was our peer-reviewed reanalysis of the Henry Ford Health System vaccinated vs. unvaccinated birth-cohort study (Lamerato et al.)—the largest and most rigorous comparison of its kind ever conducted.

BREAKING: Peer-Reviewed Reanalysis of the Henry Ford Birth Cohort Study Finds Vaccinated Children Sicker Across All 22 Chronic Disease Categories

BREAKING: Peer-Reviewed Reanalysis of the Henry Ford Birth Cohort Study Finds Vaccinated Children Sicker Across All 22 Chronic Disease Categories

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The original authors relied heavily on Cox proportional hazards models, a time-adjusted approach that can soften absolute disease burden. Even so, nearly all chronic disease outcomes were higher in vaccinated children.

Our reanalysis used direct proportional comparisons, stripping away the smoothing and revealing the full magnitude of the signal.

  • All 22 chronic disease categories favored the unvaccinated cohort when proportional disease burden was examined
  • Cancer incidence was 54% higher in vaccinated children (0.0102 vs. 0.0066)
  • When autism-associated conditions were grouped appropriately—including autism, ADHD, developmental delay, learning disability, speech disorder, neurologic impairment, seizures, and related diagnoses—the vaccinated cohort showed a 549% higher odds of autism-spectrum–associated clinical outcomes

The findings are internally consistent, biologically coherent, and concordant with every prior vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study, all of which show drastically poorer health outcomes among vaccinated children


The 12 Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Studies Regulators Ignore

In the McCullough Foundation Autism Report, we compiled all 12 vaccinated vs. unvaccinated pediatric studies currently available. These studies span different populations, countries, study designs, and data sources.

Every single one reports the same overall pattern. Across all 12 studies, unvaccinated children consistently exhibit substantially lower rates of chronic disease, including:

  • Autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders
  • ADHD, tics, learning and speech disorders
  • Asthma, allergies, eczema, and autoimmune conditions
  • Chronic ear infections, skin disorders, and gastrointestinal illness

This level of consistency across independent datasets is precisely what epidemiology looks for when assessing causality. It also explains why no federal agency has ever conducted—or endorsed—a fully vaccinated vs. fully unvaccinated safety study.


Flu Shot Failure

We also addressed the persistent failure of seasonal influenza vaccination.

A large Cleveland Clinic cohort study of 53,402 employees followed participants during the 2024–2025 respiratory viral season and found:

  • 82.1% of employees were vaccinated against influenza
  • Vaccinated individuals had a 27% higher adjusted risk of influenza compared with the unvaccinated state (HR 1.27; 95% CI 1.07–1.51; p = 0.007)
  • This corresponded to a negative vaccine effectiveness of −26.9% (95% CI −55.0 to −6.6%), meaning vaccination was associated with increased—not reduced—risk of influenza

When vaccination exposure increases, chronic disease, neurodevelopmental disorders, and inflammatory illness increase with it. When children are unvaccinated, they are measurably healthier across virtually every outcome that matters.

The science needed to confront the chronic disease and autism epidemics already exists. What remains is the willingness to acknowledge it.


Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

Epidemiologist and Foundation Administrator, McCullough Foundation

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Crixcyon

Crixcyon 11h

What you mean to say is that UNPOISONED children (and adults) are always the healthiest.

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Irrefutable evidence concludes – children’s shots cause autism, and the cursed flu shot gives you the flu!…

https://open.substack.com/pub/petermcculloughmd/p/all-12-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated?r=g4f3s&utm_medium=ios

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sandy

sandy 10h

Thank you for posting that link

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A T

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You are welcome Sandy – I just wish that more parents would wake up from their cognitive deafness and blindness and see that government and medical, including Pharmakeia, are intent on harming us and our children rather than helping us. If they saw this evil, they would turn to God and as well embrace His son Jesus.

Be well and Merry Christmas!

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John Day MD

Dr. John’s Blog 11h

I forwarded this to my adult “kids”, who deal with the difficulty of finding medical providers who will not throw them out for “undervaccinating” and “delaying” with their children.

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SteelJ

SteelJ 8h

It’s heartening that my son and his wife are having fewer such struggles than we expected with our two unvaccinated grandsons. They’re in the Atlanta area. Hopefully your kids will have fewer issues as time goes by. It does seem like a point of no return has been reached, the dam is breaking. We’ll see, but I never thought the darkness would lift as much as it already has.

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DaughteroftheKing

DaughteroftheKing 5h

I finally found ONE functional pediatrician. She’s out-of-network but got our Son established as a patient with her so we can use holistic methods as much as possible.

Retired pediatrician adter 35 years, Dr. Paul Thomas, offers “coaching”. Might help in the meantime.

kidsfirst4ever.com

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John Day MD

Dr. John’s Blog 5h

It is working out, though with difficulty, even though my eldest daughter is a hospital physician, heself. Vaccination kickback money controls this almost completely.

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DaughteroftheKing

DaughteroftheKing 2h

Dr. Paul Thomas verified that the pediatricians are paid by the insurance companies for maintaining a certain percentage of their patients being vaccinated. Now I understand why my Son’s pediatrician sent a notification to all parents of her patients that we would be kicked out if we do not comply 100% with the CDC Childhood Vaccine Schedule.

Dr. Paul Thomas was forced into retirement after 35 years of being a pediatrician for providing parents with informed consent then allowing them to choose CDC Childhood Vaccine Schedule or delayed schedule or zero vaccines.

KUDOS to your adult Kids for PROTECTING their Children!

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Barbara Lee

Barbara Lee 10h

The real shocker here is that for at least 50 years, this has been suppressed. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO by the very people charged with our health. Let that sink in!

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pimaCanyon

pimaCanyon 7h

many of them don’t know they are lying. They are members of a CULT and they don’t know that either. They’ve been programmed to believe unquestionably that vaccines always save lives, that they eradicated terrible illnesses, that anyone who questions that is evil and a conspiracy theorist and stupid and a threat to society. It’s a CULT because they will not look at the evidence, they will not ask any questions, they will not allow anyone else to ask questions. It’s beyond frustrating. You want to shake them awake, but you can’t. It’s like we’re living in an altered reality that is worse than the Dark Ages

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Elsasser I.

Elsasser I. 4h

Is there any more evidence needed that vaccination has become a religion?

https://en.numista.com/328913

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DaughteroftheKing

DaughteroftheKing 5h

Barbara Lee – MALFEASANCE!

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lawrence greenberg

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Yet after decades of propaganda and brainwashing, the facts and the proof mean nothing to so many people, who keep insisting that everyone must be vaccinated against everything with every available vaccine or we will all die. They want RFK, Jr. impeached and declared a heretic, and they want anyone who says even a single bad word about vaccines to be, at best, banned from public life, or possibly even jailed. Just goes to show how weak-minded so many people are that truth and facts which violate their long-held beliefs will not get through to them.

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DaughteroftheKing

DaughteroftheKing 5h

Lawrence – TRAGICALLY true!

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sandy

sandy 5h

If their vaccine works, no need to worry whether or not I am vaccinated. If their vaccine does not work, no need to worry about whether or not I am vaccinated.

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Sven Román

Sven Román 10h

This is really fantastic! 👍🏻💪🙏🏻

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Laura Kasner

Clotastrophe 10h

Excellent interview Nic!

This gives me such hope.

And are we about to get a Christmas miracle (only a bit late)? Be sure to read Malone’s pinned comment:

https://www.malone.news/p/hhs-cdc-to-make-announcement-on-childrens

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Kevin Wm Bell

10h

You my Savior,,, U of M sold out years ago.MSU has also fallen Pray to the Whitless Demonic-Rats also. I’m a should be dead Lab Rat due to Whitless & Slotkin bringing the Bio-Weapon to Michigan. Please send HELP…. 🙏

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Brandon is not your bro

Brandon is not your bro 1h

Kevin every “ newborn in the Corewell system will continue to get hepatitis B “ … announcement made this am in our inbox . 😡

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sandy

sandy 10h

Keep up the extensive, excellent work Nic and Dell.

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Dave Juck

Dave’s Substack 5h

I agree with you and the research.thankyou.

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DaughteroftheKing

DaughteroftheKing 6h

PRAISING and THANKING ALMIGHTY GOD for raising up COURAGEOUS, SACRIFICIAL, BRILLIANT Warriors/Heroes in Del Bigtree, Mr. Hulscher and Dr. McCullough!

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alice

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now,I wonder if meta on physically fit seniors vaccinated – flu,shingles,pneumonia,etc. can reveal similar outcome. may be difficult as aged humans have many immunity challenges.

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Stephan Reisig

Stephan’s Substack 9h

It really is like a game of poker. We now have the good cards, they don’t. And then I immediately think of the Digital Control Grid again. I suspect that this is one of the reasons why they want to introduce it as quickly as possible, so that with their new overall system, all these revelations concerning all these clinical trials will no longer be able to reach the public. This will enable them to continue their depopulation goals even more effectively. And they can continue to expand their preferred reality. The average internet user has already shown that they quickly forget even the most invasive reporting [we now know how that could have happened]. But it seems that they are also including that data in their constantly updated roadmap. Anyone who has specific expertise and has not been bribed should indeed continue their good work for as long as possible, such as this medical doctor Hulscher, but given the times we live in, we are obliged to always mention the other mega-threat, namely the coming digitalisation.

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Autumn

Autumn 7h

I don’t buy for a second that President Trump didn’t and doesn’t know what the shots did/do…. I just can’t imagine why he felt it necessary to have his White House physician post a letter stating recently that “President Trump has had his flu and covid booster”……. WTF? WHY SAY THIS TO THE WORLD?

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Curtis

Curtis 9h

Thank you for your work, Nicolas!

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Mike Casey

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It’s time to replace vaccines with something that is safe, effective and healthy.

The vaccine has been proven to be more deadly than the disease. Now what?

If they are truly committed to finding an alternative to vaccines and pharmaceuticals, ozone water must be considered.

I would like to suggest an unexplored preventative approach.

My approach centers around ozone infused water, which consists of the two things that the body can’t live without, oxygen and water.

Understanding the science.

Ozone comprises of 3 oxygen molecules that are loosely connected by an electric charge. Oxygen prefers to occupy space as a pair, so the 3rd oxygen molecule and its charge are easy removed by anything organic. This makes ozone a powerful oxidizer that will immediately destroy any virus or bacteria. As little as 5ppm of ozone will literally melt every virus and bacteria. incredibly. An example of oxidation is a fire place. Put wood in and ashes come out. Fire is a form of oxidation, it requires oxygen to burn.

When ozone is mixed with water the ozone will “burn” or oxidize organics and minerals dissolved in the water, yet be buffered by the water so that it is safe to drink or apply to the skin. Water acts as a transfer agent to safely direct ozone to any surface. This process will safely disinfect or even sterilize the water depending on the amount of ozone injected and the biological load in the water. Essentially ozone will improve any water quality. It will turn tap water into a powerful organic disinfectant – sterilizer. It will remove the odor from sewer water. It will naturally soften the water so scale does not build up in plumbing. Ozone oxidation alters the chemical composition of water so pathogens are oxidized and minerals are chelated.

The fact is that once ozone water can be enriched to the point of sterilization and the water will then sterilize anything that it touches. The caveat is that ozone water quickly releases the oxygen, so ozone water must be produced and used immediately to be most effective. When used immediately ozone water is the safest, most powerful disinfectant on earth. Ozone water can’t be bottled and sold off the shelf. This fact makes it unprofitable for companies selling health and wellness.

A new approach to health is organic, easy, inexpensive, and extremely effective.

Organic. The only ingredients are oxygen and water.

Easy. Simply make ozone water your drinking water, apply it to your skin, and inhale a fine mist of it.

Inexpensive. Portable ozone generators cost around $100 and last for years. Ozone faucets are on a par with Reverse Osmosis systems, however they have lights that indicate that they are working and don’t require annual maintenance.

Daily applications of ozone water will disinfect your body, mouth, throat and lungs. If applied daily ALL infectious disease will be prevented. This is a cure for the common cold, the flu, Covid, bird flu and all other diseases. I consider ozone water to be a “UNIVERSAL PANACEA “. This new approach is a simple plan to eliminate a vast majority of all diseases.

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Curtis

Curtis 9h

Interesting. Unfortunately, being bombarded daily with miracle cures has made me a bit of a skeptic. Normies are subjected to their MSM and pharma information, and we have ours. 😉

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pimaCanyon

pimaCanyon 7h

yes. stop with the miracle cures already!! We have the miracle cure! It’s called a healthy happy human body. It knows how to stay healthy if we just give it what it needs: fresh air, exercise, sunshine, real food, rest and relaxation, good sleep, healthy relationships. There are ancient systems of health and healing that know this and have protocols to help the body and mind to return to health and wholeness when it has deviated from that. Two such systems are TCM and Ayurveda.

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Mike Casey

Mike’s Substack 8h

I completely understand. Do your own research. Ozone water is a powerful source of good health and wellness. It is the last thing that Pharma wants you to know about. The misinformation about ozone and ozone water is because of this.

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Just tired

Just tired 11m

Fuck all of you anti vaxxers

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Gayle Wells

Gayle Wells 4h

How have all the prior vaccinations used changed over the years? As autism, etc is now accelerated, did they up ingredients over the years, change ingredients? Aren’t they suppose to hold onto all of these samples and data on that? The criminal eugenicists driving this make trillions, not billions.

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Doug Cragoe

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But what about the infectious diseases vaccines are designed to reduce? Did the unvaxed children do better with those diseases also? Did the unvaxed do better with measles, mumps, rubella, polio, RSV, and all the others? The problem with these stories is nobody reports about those diseases when they say the unvaxed children did better.

And what about the idea that unvaxed children in the U.S. are riding on the backs of the vaxed children who are providing some herd immunity? They unvaxed avoid the risk of vaccines but get some benefit because the diseases vaccines reduce may have been mostly wiped out by herd immunity provided by mass vaccination.

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Mark Oddi

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I see your point some what. However almost all the diseases or health problems they are vaccinating for are extremely rare and non fatal. Further they acquire lifelong immunity once infected. If we simply gave kids the best possible nutrition as they develop their immune system we would be much farther ahead than injecting toxic substances. If we are going to keep using vaccines they should be saftey tested which they aren’t.

I dont agree that the unvaxed get much benefit from the vaxed. It is well known that vaxed kids shed which spreads health problems. It isn’t the unvaxed infecting the vaxed. It is mostly the vaxed infecting the unvaxed.

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Stephan Reisig

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Because we are dealing with an extremely criminal power conglomerate in which Big Pharma plays a very large role, I understand that we are forced to conduct the largest possible clinical trials with children ourselves. But even now, we must look at this from an ethical perspective. In order to complete such a trial, healthy children must be injected with substances that they would not normally come into contact with. If you look at the long list of diseases that these injected children develop, there must be remedies to cure them after this trial. The results of such an important clinical trial may prove that non-investigational EUA countermeasures, AKA vaccinations, are toxic and deadly, but there is never any mention of all the children who were injected after such a large trial. Have all these children simply been unlucky? Does the end justify the means? How will this group be saved from the harmful consequences after such a large trial? Let us also be transparent and ethical about this. If I have apparently misunderstood a number of things, I would like to hear about it. Attacking me personally is therefore inappropriate.

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Curtis

Curtis 9h

Unfortunately, being vaxxed is the rule, not the exception, and there are millions of eager subjects to analyze. The pharma industrial complex has long argued that vaxxed v unvaxxed studies were unethical due to withholding the benefits of the miraculous, life-giving effects of the vax from a percentage of innocent little children. This is fact, liberally sprinkled my sarcasm.

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